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Comments for 'Forced Betrayal (Chapter 5: A New Ally)'

5:14 am | February 26, 2004
I'm all for our second amendment rights, man! But, I'm not going to go into my long speech about why gun control is evil since Walker did that so well for me.

In terms of major features on REACH, you can't forget ONI's CASTLE facility beneath the mountains, or the generators for the orbital gun platforms (the place the Spartans went to defend before we originally thought that they all died). There are rivers, trees, mountains, everything. In terms of actual names of cities, I don't know any off the top of my head. It's okay if you make one up. Nobody will know:)

Anyways, good story, CoLd BlooDed. I would not want the Ensign to die either, I see some good character development opportunities here, maybe even a friendship between a human and an Elite? Maybe I should just go and read the rest of the series and find out instead of babbling on. Good job, keep it up.
CoLd BlooDed
4:00 pm | February 4, 2004
There are probably large colonies too, the author didn't really describe Reach as an earth-resembling planet (population-wise that is).

But Reach has trees, rivers, oceans, pretty much everything that Earth has on its landscape.
6:20 am | February 4, 2004
the date was 2552 you know the time Reach fell as this part is gonig to be about Chris' training as a Shock Trooper and how he gets involved in HALO 04 Incident, i just need to know what the land scape was like then and if there were any small colonies or large settlements if not i'll have to cut some parts out of the story :(
CoLd BlooDed
12:04 pm | February 3, 2004
Whats the specific date, I'll check in my book whether its before Reach was glassed or not...
12:38 pm | February 2, 2004
"For pro-gun control, do not read "Arming America" or see "Bowling for Columbine." Both are filled with not only twisted information, but "facts" that are pure lies."

What happened to 'Bowling for Columbine' that made it so bad?

Over here there is NO PLACE you could go to either buy or use pistols :(
6:45 am | February 2, 2004
Hey Cold its pre-HALO incident so its around the same time as Fall of Reach.
3:47 am | February 2, 2004
As for Arming America, read this short article at http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_bellesiles_halb.html. It proves that the book's author doesn't even beleive the lies he's spinning.
3:27 am | February 2, 2004
The very title is fictious. Moore showed the Columbine murderers bowling the day they went on their shooting spree, but that never happened. Also in the film Lockheed Martin is portrayed as an assault-rifle manufacturer. In truth Lockheed Martin makes parts for planes and satellites (sp?). Besides, how can we listen to a 320 lb man who warns us about over-consumption?
CoLd BlooDed
7:12 pm | February 1, 2004
Thanks for the information, Walker...wow.

And grysly, yes, Reach was glassed, but it depends on what date your series takes place.
2:53 pm | February 1, 2004
Yes, in the US everyone who is an adult and has not been convicted of a felon can own a gun. There are a whole bunch of other unconstitutional restrictions on guns, some of them banning guns just because they look dangerous. And as they say, the first step to confiscation is restriction, and therefore I don't see the right to bear arms lasting much longer. Maybe two or three generations. That's when the US will be overrun by Communists and China will take the lead in the world.

Murder rate? 12.7 people for every 100,000 in Texas. Then again, in Washington D.C., where gun control is extremely restrictive, the murder rate is something like 80 per 100,000. As explanation I offer this quote:

“Gun control? It’s the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I’m a bad guy, I’m always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You will pull the trigger with a lock on, and I’ll pull the trigger. We’ll see who wins.”
-Sammy “the Bull” Gravano, mafia hit man and informant

I also offer these quotes. One from the author of the Bill of Rights, one from our first President, two from the author of our Declaration of Independence (and third President)and a quote from an ancient philosopher. The last one from a completely different country.

1. “Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion...in private defense.”
-James Madison

2. “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence...From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security, and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference, they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
-George Washington

3. “The true importance of the Second Amendment will not be fully understood, until they begin to usurp its power.” -Thomas Jefferson

“Laws that forbid the carrying of guns...disarm only those who are neither inclined not determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailant; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” -Thomas Jefferson

4. “Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms.” -Aristotle

5. “Tell the American people never to lose their guns. As long as they keep their guns in their hands, what happened here will never happen there.” –Last Words of a Chinese Couple to their Daughter

Well, that's the gist of it. There's lots of material out there for and against gun control. If you want to research make sure you read both. I suggest, against gun control, John R. Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" or go to http://www.jpfo.org. For pro-gun control, do not read "Arming America" or see "Bowling for Columbine." Both are filled with not only twisted information, but "facts" that are pure lies. Read something like the Brady Campaign's website, http://www.bradycampaign.org, the leading defender of gun control.

Some pro-gun control quotes you might find interesting:

“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let the people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?” –Joseph Stalin

“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.” -Adolf Hitler

Well, that's all I have to say on the issue.

Semper Fi

7:16 am | February 1, 2004
Hey crashed! i Live in Yarram (the ass end of the universe) nice place but gets boring after a while ;), where you live? And thanks i'll check out Collins and asked around a bit more, they jsut dont seem to take a 14 year old seriously....

And wtf glassed? that changes everything! MAn i'll have to put my story off for awhile then until i read the HALO books :(
CoLd BlooDed
6:02 am | February 1, 2004
Is your name Matthew?
5:55 am | February 1, 2004
Loved the story, I better see a mention of a DAMN GOOD Marine named Matthew, or I'll go off. Nah, I'm just kidding around, but that would be cool. :D! A Marine named Matthew David Wilson. ROFL That would be cool, *Cough* Suggestion *Cough cough* :D! I'll be sure to read when I get the chance man.
CoLd BlooDed
5:46 am | February 1, 2004
My dad owned alot of guns, alot. He had shotguns, rifles, a WW2 gun (not sure what kind), and I don't think he had pistols. But he only used it to hunt because he lived out near the woods.

Don't people in Texas have the right to bear arms? And are there many murders?
3:45 am | February 1, 2004
By gun owner I mean owns and shoots pistols (semi-autos, revolvers), rifles (semi-auto, bolt action, etc.), shotguns (pump, semi-auto, etc.) of all calibers. Besides, what good's a single-shot .22 gonna do me if three guys come and rob my house? That's why I wouldn't live in Australia. But I would consider it a vacation spot.
1:47 am | February 1, 2004
Im Canadian too, and im fuckin sick of the snow. Its been snowin for 2 weeks strait! God Help Me
1:38 am | February 1, 2004
well almost all semi automatics are illegal, but on farms, we reserve the right to shoot ferals (foxes, rabbits, cats) so most single shot rifles are excepted with the right licencing. Plus there are more than enough gun clubs around =D
CoLd BlooDed
11:19 pm | January 31, 2004
Thanks for the post, Walker, and the Ensign does survive. :P
9:51 pm | January 31, 2004
I had an Australian friend. He moved back, but his accent made things that much more interesting (I'm Texan, no accent though).

Australia... I'd probably never live there, seeing as I am a gun owner (guns are illegal in Australia, right?) but the countryside is nice from the photos I've seen.
9:49 pm | January 31, 2004
What, it's too much trouble to take the poor guy with them and not leave him stranded in the dead of space?

Nice story though. But I'd like to see the good Ensign survive.

Semper Fi

8:35 pm | January 31, 2004
Good story, I want to follow this series. The Covenant/Human cooperation seems interesting.
CoLd BlooDed
8:19 pm | January 31, 2004
Thanks for the feedback, Jink.

Are you new to HBO? I haven't seen you before, or is this the first you've read of my stories?
3:04 pm | January 31, 2004
So, this is what Forced Betrayal is like, eh? I love all this rebellious atmosphere going around these days...so refreshing.

Well, Cold Blooded, I managed to squeeze some time in to read. Great story, just edit it more carefully.

CoLd BlooDed
12:08 pm | January 31, 2004
grylsy, I got my information from "The Flood".

What do you need help on?
CoLd BlooDed
9:06 am | January 31, 2004
It only snowed once at the end of december or the beginning of january (remember our seasons are opposite). Check out my poem "Getting to Ones Mind" as well as long as your on HBO.
8:50 am | January 31, 2004
kool man, got much snow up there? i wish it snowed where i live =( ah well, if it did i'd probably complain =P
CoLd BlooDed
8:44 am | January 31, 2004
Canada, eh? lol
8:26 am | January 31, 2004
hehe yeah i guess we are. so where do you hail from exactly CoLd BlOoDeD?
CoLd BlooDed
8:06 am | January 31, 2004
Lol so you guys r both aussies? Thats cool, I had a few friends that were Australian.
CoLd BlooDed
7:09 am | January 31, 2004
Do you mean after it was glassed or before?

Before it was glassed I'm pretty sure it had bases and encampments but not huge cities. But then again I might be wrong.
7:03 am | January 31, 2004
grysly, you're from victoria too? dude so am i! where are you from?? oh, anyways... umm i'd have a look for it 'Collin's book store' in Warrnambool, and if not, send an email to 'penguin books' cos they'd probly have it. (sorry i dont know their adress but thats a start)
6:53 am | January 31, 2004
mna that was my next question Cold... but anyway i cant get a copy of the flood! none of the book stores around my area of Victoria, Australia havn't even heard of the book! So if there are any more Aussies in here who know where to get it i would be very happy ;)...

i needed help to know what the land scape of the planet reach is. Is it like earth or is it like a waste land? Are there large cities? and so on...
CoLd BlooDed
6:38 am | January 31, 2004
Thanks crashedwarthog, I'm appreciate that you enjoyed my story. :D
6:13 am | January 31, 2004
hey man, fantastic story. again, i really enjoy the rebel part. it just makes it that much cooler 10/10!
6:13 am | January 31, 2004
hey man, fantastic story. again, i really enjoy the rebel part. it just makes it that much cooler 10/10!
11:19 pm | January 30, 2004
hey Cold Blooded, where did you get all the infomation? Like all the eight cycle and stuff like? As i ahve to do the next few parts of my story on Reach and well i need to know what the planet looks like, a little help?
9:04 pm | January 30, 2004
That was good, there were about 2 missing s's in the story though. Keep it up! 9.9/10
10:59 am | January 30, 2004
hahaha me first! Well great story 9.9/10 you lsot the 0.1 for a couple of missing '"'s and so on, but great work